some black blogger says Kobe using the word "f a g g o t" isn't anti-gay
Why Kobe's Slur Wasn't Anti-Gay
The current beef brewing over Los Angeles Laker Kobe Bryant's courtside cursing demonstrates once again the willingness of America's LGBT leadership to take a brother down by any means necessary. Bryant, once accused of rape and certifiably a hothead, came under the wrath of major LGBT institutions like HRC and GLAAD after calling a referee a "fucking ******" after receiving a technical foul during Tuesday's match against the San Antonio spurs. Armed with their well-oiled media machine, both groups quickly issued formal statements blasting Bryant, which were snapped up by major LGBT blogs whose writers and readers have now declared the pro-baller America's homophobe-in-chief.
Although Bryant's word choice is certainly unfortunate, equally worrisome is the near-instant racial -- and racist -- overtones now permeating this debate. At its core is the comparison of word ****** with "******," a comparison that has become emblematic of the LGBT movement's unabashed co-option of the African-American struggle. In this case, reader comments on blog after blog repeatedly invoke the word ****** in their Kobe takedown as -- in the words of Joe.My.God reader "beeblmeyer" -- they "wonder how Mr. Bryant would feel if someone said, 'Fucking ******'."
The real wonder here is how folks could think there is anything to compare in the first place. Without doubt, Bryant uttered the epitaph in anger, but in a fit of homophobia -- not necessarily, at least until we know for certain whether referee Bennie Adams is gay.
Despite what gay, black ex-NBA player John Amaechi might have said in today's USA Today, calling someone a "fucking ******" has an entirely different historical meaning and context. A black person is called a ****** precisely and exclusively because he is black. Period. And the core of the word's offense -- and racism -- stems from this sheer conspicuousness. I've been called a ****** more than once and there’s no doubt it was because of the color of my skin, not because I'd pissed someone off.
We cannot necessarily say the same thing about Kobe's -- or perhaps anyone's -- use of "******." Yes, the word is loaded with offense and has been a centuries-long tool of homophobes. But unless we're certain Bryant expressly chose this word to specifically diss Adams' sexuality, this charge of homophobia doesn't hold up. Nor do the overwrought responses by GLAAD and HRC, who clearly have far more important enemies to battle than Kobe Bryant.
And hopefully they'll soon start doing that now that Kobe has been slapped with a $100,000 fine by the NBA and released an official apology statement to GLAAD late Wednesday. Sounding both on-message and most likely sincere, Bryant said his actions "were out of frustration during the heat of the game ... [and] do NOT reflect my feelings towards the gay and lesbian communities." I, for one, never thought they did.
Bryant is not the first black man taken to task by the LGBT lynch mob for calling a colleague a ******. Back in 2007, Isaiah Washington went on an infamous anti-gay tirade against his Grey's Anatomy costar T.R. Knight. Here, however, the homophobia is incontestable. Knight is gay, and there's little doubt Washington chose his words accordingly. The outcry -- though over-sized -- was justified and understandable; and while Washington may have lost his career, the nation was provided with an important "teachable moment" in the battle to combat homophobia and mass media's role in it.
Meanwhile, from complaints about "Gay Apartheid" to declarations that "gay is the new black," LGBT leaders demonstrate a kind of movement-mooching never before seen in the history of identity politics. Yet like the word "holocaust" for Jews or "genocide" for Rwandans, the word ****** -- because of all it conveys -- is a sacred statement that must be kept off-limits from those who would massage its meaning. Using it in the context of Bryant's slur is that kind of abuse, writ large.
Although I'm sure the Bryant-bashing would have been far less virulent if he was white, ultimately, this isn't about defending Bryant's outburst -- because it shouldn't be defended. Rather, it's about demanding that any Kobe critique intelligently, accurately and honorably reflects the facts. Most crucially, those critiques must never devolve to the kind of race-based vitriol flowing freely across the Internet today.
White-led LGBT blogs such as Joe.My.God and particularly Towleroad have traditionally shown little leadership in these kinds of efforts; sadly, minority blogs such as the one by openly gay black blogger Pam Spaulding have failed to chime in with some context, either.
From Donald Trump to the Westboro Baptist Church folks, the enemies of LGBT liberation are very much alive, well and ready for action. Kobe Bryant, I suspect, simply wants to get back on the basketball court. Pro sports is a fiery realm of testosterone laced with narcissism, where terms like "******" are often used with impunity. One day Bryant may call yet another referee a "fucking ******." But unless he believes that ref is gay – sorry, John Amaechi -- "******" will still not be the new "******."
wow, OD's mandated "bad words" filter really butchers this article
anyway, the guy's thesis is that f a g g o t isn't an anti-gay slur unless you really mean it
but of course, he refuses to apply that same ridiculous logic to the word n i g g e r
as usual, some blacks want a monopoly on victimhood
I was just coming to say the exact same thing.
Originally Posted by KTULU
you ever notice how it's only okay to call someone a derogatory slur if you're a part of that same group?
Bitches can call each other bitches
gays can call each other f-ags
black people can call each other n-igger and get away with it (and no I don't care if it's misspelled)
so the only way it can be said that Kobe can get away with saying it is if it's acknowledged that him and the dude he talking to is gay.
One night at 3am at a Waffle House in Virginia a white dude got pissed at another white dude for flirting with his woman. Things were semi-cool until the guy with the girl called the other white dude a n***er. The dude flew into a rage so fucking fast that I didn't have time to process what happened. I just looked to my Mexican friend and saw he was just as confused as I was and we laughed our asses off as one of the cooks tried to get a handle on things. Of course the moral of the story is you don't hang out at the Waffle House that late.
I don't see how "f-aggot" isn't homophobic just because it isn't said to a gay person. You're still trying to insult someone by calling them a homo, which is basically saying that being gay is a bad thing.
I will have agree somewhat with the fact the n-word is generally aimed a lot more specific, but that doesn't mean that "f-aggot" suddenly carries less weight.
How could the n-word be more specific when there are way more black people than there are gay people?
There's seven billion people and about one billion of them are Africans. That's not even counting non-African blacks, so more than 1 out of 7 people are insulted by the n-word.
But the best estimates say only about ten percent of the population is gay.
The truth is, f a g g o t really is the new n i g g e r, and there are a lot of black people whose entire personalities are staked on being victims of bigotry, so they're upset about this change.
I mean that the n-word is most commonly aimed at a specific group of people, while technically anyone of any race can be gay. So in that sense f-aggot is a wider term (meaning you can technically call everyone a f-aggot, but calling someone the n-word only really makes sense if that person is black). Anyway, I agree that people shouldn't act as if the n-word is something special compared to other discriminatory slurs. There's still enough black people who refuse to call the movement for gay marriage a civil rights movement, because apparently only black people can fight to gain civil rights.
What would've happened if Kobe just said "Well.. I really thought that guy was gay.."
I'm sure NBA players have called each other my n-igger or something. Have they ever been fined for this?
It happens all the time and no they never get fined for it. Hell this isn't even the first time an NBA player has called someone a ******. Kobe is just the first player to get fined for it far as I know.
Originally Posted by DOOM@ALL_CAPS