DC Comics Discussion

[Dr Doom]

Everything DC goes here.

[JxXxR]

Johns retconned the shit outta GL lol

[Dr Doom]

I must say, I have zero anticipation for War Of The Green Lanterns. So far I've seen nothing to convince it will be more than a very poorly done Sinestro Corps War.

[Earth-2 Superman]

GL pretty much belongs to Johns now. not surprising.

[JxXxR]

lol granted he's running it, but damn that was a RET-CON if i have ever seen one lol and there's STILL much to explain

[duckman returns]

I dunno about the War of the GLs.......its like Johns is getting tired of writing.

[Earth-2 Superman]

I dunno about the War of the GLs.......its like Johns is getting tired of writing.

could be. thats why Morrison takes plenty of time off, or at least lowers his workload.

lets just wait and see. many of us didnt think war of the supermen would be any good and it was fantastic.

[JxXxR]

so the Entity is going to kill off everyone it brought back to life? wtf? lol

[Dr Doom]

rofl @ how pathetic this thread is compared to the Marvel one. But then again, outside of the two GL books and Brightest Day nothing else of importance has dropped this week.

[JxXxR]

lol and not alot of DC heads are here also....

[Requiem]

I enjoyed all the GL books this week and am actually looking forward the their upcoming event. I'm not too familiar with the Guardians' history so I couldn't tell if this was a retcon or what. But as a standalone I thought it was pretty cool. But what I don't understand is where wasw Krona during the Blackest Night? Or The Sinestro Corps War? He looks like a pretty powerful Guardian, so unless he was just hiding out in the catacombs or whatever I don't see why he didn't come out sooner.

[Dr Doom]

Still in hiding, I guess biding his time. His return really just looks like a plot twist Johns came up with to go "Ha ha, you all thought it was Scar but it wasn't!".

[JxXxR]

i wonder if it was indeed Krona that was in the 'shadows' during this issue......cuz i wonder who it was that could actually be held like that..

[Chapter]

We need a request thread...I got alotta stuff to ask for and google isn't cutting it.

[Dr Doom]

There is one in Comikazie, lol.

Also, be sure to check out odeisel's review of All-Star Superman on the front page:

http://planetill.com/2011/02/all-star-superman-dcau-does-it-again/

:thumbsup

[FlippaDippa]

i have a quick question about Superman: why he doesn't recognize Wonder Woman?
i'm still new with dc universe, but i remember Morrison's JLA where they were friends..

[Dr Doom]

i have a quick question about Superman: why he doesn't recognize Wonder Woman?
i'm still new with dc universe, but i remember Morrison's JLA where they were friends..

It's because of a recent storyline. It isn't entirely clear what has happened but Wonder Woman's caught in a time/space bubble, her previous history seemingly erased for a new one (as best as I can explain it). As of now, the only people who still remember Wonder Woman even existed are Max Lord and the Justice League International. This may be because of Max Lord's own world-induced mindwipe to make people forget him (the JLI were the only ones not mind wiped) but all of that is still a bit unclear.

[FlippaDippa]

It's because of a recent storyline. It isn't entirely clear what has happened but Wonder Woman's caught in a time/space bubble, her previous history seemingly erased for a new one (as best as I can explain it). As of now, the only people who still remember Wonder Woman even existed are Max Lord and the Justice League International. This may be because of Max Lord's own world-induced mindwipe to make people forget him (the JLI were the only ones not mind wiped) but all of that is still a bit unclear.

:webaywow:
this happened on "Wonder Woman"? i've dropped it after Straczinsky's second issue

btw can you suggest something to catch up with dc?
i'm just reading GLs (GL, GL corps and Brightest Day), Superman (I've started with 700) and Morrison's Batman

[Dr Doom]

It's kind of difficult because unlike DC doesn't just have a couple of books that determine the entire universe like Bendis' books at Marvel do. Maybe GL: Emerald Warriors as well and you might want to get into The Flash (the new series is still fresh) because it's building up to what's probably the next interesting event in DC: Flashpoint. Additional suggestions are Action Comics since it's all Lex Luthor, therefore very entertaining, and Justice League: Generation Lost, Booster Gold and Power Girl. These books including the ones you're already reading cover most bases of what's going on in the mainstream DCU. It's a lot, but you can't go wrong with any of them (Emerald Warriors is the weakest book and I only suggest it because of it being important to the GL universe).

[JxXxR]

Brightest Day, GL, The Flash, JLI, is bascially what you need to read for the coming event(s)..FlashPoint & War Of the Green Lanterns...

[FlippaDippa]

thanks, i'll catch up very soon (emerald is already in my list, i just forgot about it...)

[Requiem]

The Flash is a good read and I think Flashpoint could be a very interesting arc. Not sure what Morrison is working on right now for DC. Batman Inc hasn't seen a new issue in a while, and the same for..wait, what other book is he even writing for them? He went from writing Batman and Robin, The Return of Bruce Wayne, Joe the Barbarian, and Batman to writing just one book? Seems odd since he is one of the more popular writers right now.

[Dr Doom]

Joe The Barbarian hasn't finished yet, but it is his only other book besides Batman Inc. right now. I don't get the delays either, I understand the Return Of Bruce Wayne arc took its toll on him but come on.

[duckman returns]

rofl @ how pathetic this thread is compared to the Marvel one. But then again, outside of the two GL books and Brightest Day nothing else of importance has dropped this week.



cause they appeal to the lowest common denominator LOL


But I need to get caught up on GL.

[Dr Doom]

Generation Lost was cool this week. Lots of flashbacks but I like how it ties into Lord planning every step of the way.

[False Profit]

yeah, can't really say it's a retcon, either.

although every writer in the world has seemed to forget the fact that Max was a cyborg.

Maybe max made them forget.

[Dr Doom]

This is what Wikipedia got to say on the matter:


How Lord recovered his original human body and received a different variation of his telepathic powers has not been revealed, and fans have criticized this reboot of the character, especially after interviews where prominent DC comics administrators revealed they knew about the continuity problems but decided to ignore them (see next paragraph). In-story, it is possible to explain the various continuity errors as one of the side-effects of Superboy Prime "punching" the universe and changing history (see Continuity changes during Infinite Crisis for more details); this may also explain his character's change from hero to villain, or he might have been influenced by Alexander Luthor and/or the Psycho-Pirate. While it was probably the writer's intent to suggest that Lord's previous 'heroic behavior' was simply a part he played to ingratiate himself with the heroes before his intended plan of betrayal, this is contradicted by his various thought-bubbles over the years.

At the "Crisis Counseling" panel at Wizard World Chicago, Dan DiDio explained DC's reasoning in using Lord's character in Infinite Crisis. After going through several possible characters who could be the "new leader for the offshoot of Checkmate", Maxwell Lord was suggested. Many of the editors thought that the idea made sense, as Lord had been shown to have a mean streak and to have killed previously. The idea was dropped due to the continuity errors, such as him being a cyborg, but they went back to it later after deciding none of the other possible characters were suitable. "We thought about that aspect of the story [where Maxwell was turned into a cyborg] some more," DiDio explained. "And then asked, 'Did anyone read it?' No. 'Did anyone like the idea?' No. So we moved ahead with Max as being a human, and having been a human, and not letting that small part of the past stand in the way of this story. We wanted what was best for Countdown [to Infinite Crisis], and for us, that meant that Max had to be a human."[34]

A further retcon placed the cyberization of Maxwell Lord in a brief period, after which Maxwell Lord used his connections with Cadmus Labs, Checkmate and Project M to reverse the changes made to him by the Kilg%re and get back into a healthy human body. The narrative captions that explain this also imply that, despite previous suggestions to the contrary, his reformation during JLI was genuine, and only following his cyberization and restoration (and presumably Sue Dibny's death) did he acquire the hatred of metahumans that defined his role in Infinite Crisis.[35]

This has been revealed to be the case even in the current DC Universe (Booster Gold's events were set in a timeline diverging from the Countdown to Infinite Crisis events to present). However, the cyborg body owned by Maxwell Lord is no longer the one owned by the mechanical clone of Lord Havok, but a New Genesis-built automaton. Discarded after the restoration of his biological form, the body was abandoned in a basement at the Castle, Checkmate's current headquarters, and retooled to host the current iteration of the G.I. Robot.

[JxXxR]

GenLost is a great book and cant believe i didnt read it from the start

[Dr Doom]

GenLost is a great book and cant believe i didnt read it from the start

That's what I've been saying, lol. You should also start reading Power Girl (or at least pick it up at the point Winick took over writing duties) since it'll tie in directly to Generation Lost.

[Broddie]

But then again, outside of the two GL books and Brightest Day nothing else of importance has dropped this week.

Not important to the scope of the greater DCU perhaps but at the same time many are losing out on a lot of great shit that dropped that week cause of their own ignorance. Anybody NOT reading THUNDER Agents deserves a castration.

[False Profit]

dayum. I was looking at the cover to this month's Power Girl and I didn't know WHAT to expect! I actually thought they were threatening to kill Nicco.

Great twist.

Judd and Sami have pwnt the shit out of this book and have done a good job of fleshing out the potential of Power Girl's character. They've... humanized Kara, for lack of better terms. Right down to the way that Sami draws Kara's facial expressions.

Every other writer seems to have approached the character as "let's write a tomboy butch **** with big titties."

This is THEIR character now, the same way that BoP are Gail's. If any other writer touches them, I'll prolly ignore it exists.




Oh, and that Ophelia Day character? Smug genius CEO with red hair and green eyes? lol yeah we may have just been introduced to Power Girl's Lex Luthor analogue.

[Dr Doom]

Not important to the scope of the greater DCU perhaps but at the same time many are losing out on a lot of great shit that dropped that week cause of their own ignorance. Anybody NOT reading THUNDER Agents deserves a castration.

Oh, I know. THUNDER Agents is the shit. And welcome, lol.

[Jack Roller]

Being caught up with Scalped sucks. Hate waiting for new issues. I want to see what Catcher's crazy ass is about to do next.

[False Profit]

Being caught up with Scalped sucks. Hate waiting for new issues. I want to see what Catcher's crazy ass is about to do next.

maan I'm on pins and needles waiting on that shit. I like the way they set that fallen sheriff (the one who's wife got killed) up like he was the second coming of Walker, Texas Ranger... then Catcher fucked his shit up the very first time he got close to him.

It's ALSO strange that Red Crow saw the rotting elk that he was chained to. Being that Catcher was the one that set all this shit off and is constantly hallucinating, I had honestly just been doubting his sanity this whole time.

[Jack Roller]

Oh yeah That shit had Red Crow shook. He's not the only one that comes in contact with them but I'm not convinced he's not crazy. That rattlesnake trap along with all the other stuff was nuts as hell. lol. So he kills Officer Falls Down and Red Crow wants Catcher dead... then Catcher stays one step ahead by getting Bad Horse on his side. So we might have Bad Horse vs Shunka very soon. And then I realize I'm forgetting the FBI asshole and his new force. It's almost too much. I fucking love this book.

[False Profit]

I'm confused as hell as to why Gina's spirit would lead Falls Down out of the cave, though. Was it just to fuck with Catcher?

and Bad Horse vs Shunka.... Bad Horse is gonna get raped. lol White dude has already shown that Bad Horse may be badass, but he's far from invincible. And Shunka's been waiting for his chance for the last 20 issues or so....

I don't care what anybody says..... 100 Bullets was NEVER this tightly wound or totally gray....

[Broddie]

dayum. I was looking at the cover to this month's Power Girl and I didn't know WHAT to expect! I actually thought they were threatening to kill Nicco.

Great twist.

Judd and Sami have pwnt the shit out of this book and have done a good job of fleshing out the potential of Power Girl's character. They've... humanized Kara, for lack of better terms. Right down to the way that Sami draws Kara's facial expressions.

Every other writer seems to have approached the character as "let's write a tomboy butch **** with big titties."

This is THEIR character now, the same way that BoP are Gail's. If any other writer touches them, I'll prolly ignore it exists.




Oh, and that Ophelia Day character? Smug genius CEO with red hair and green eyes? lol yeah we may have just been introduced to Power Girl's Lex Luthor analogue.

Did you read the beginning of the series by Gray, Palmiotti and Amanda Conner? it's actually been an extremely consistent title during it's whole existence so far. Unlike the New Earth Supergirl's book which had a rocky start. Supergirl has found it's footing since then though and has been consistently better than other Superman family titles on a regular basis for a while now. I'd say it's just as good as Power Girl is every month.

Anyway I finally read it and it's crazy how Winick really is putting the band back together. Like really Booster, Bruce, Kara, Cap Atom, Fire & Ice and a Rocket Red? all you need is J'onn, Wally, Guy and Dinah and you got all the living JLI big guns back in a book. I can't wait to see what's going to happen with the JLI title that will spin off from all this. It was always my favorite League incarnation.

[Broddie]

NOTE

TO: self

catch up on Scalped so you could join in on the shenanigans

Sincerely,

the man in the mirror

[Dr Doom]

Yeah, Power Girl's been pretty good since the beginning although I did feel Gray & Palmiotti could never really move past the sexism of the character. Sure, they did it in a jokey way but still, she remained too much of that 'big-titted blonde with the most unnecessarily exposing costume'.

[jpeso]

Power Girl was good. i damn near clapped when i saw bruce come thru and crush the building lol i knew he would remmember max.

[Dr Doom]

Power Girl was good. i damn near clapped when i saw bruce come thru and crush the building lol i knew he would remmember max.


Well, I forgot what book or issue it was (I think Brightest Day) but it was already shown before that Bruce remembered Max Lord.

[JxXxR]

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/02/glcor_cv58_var1.jpg

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/02/grelanvar001col724.jpg

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/02/fp_green_lantern_100-300x298.jpg

[False Profit]

Did you read the beginning of the series by Gray, Palmiotti and Amanda Conner? it's actually been an extremely consistent title during it's whole existence so far. Unlike the New Earth Supergirl's book which had a rocky start. Supergirl has found it's footing since then though and has been consistently better than other Superman family titles on a regular basis for a while now. I'd say it's just as good as Power Girl is every month.

Anyway I finally read it and it's crazy how Winick really is putting the band back together. Like really Booster, Bruce, Kara, Cap Atom, Fire & Ice and a Rocket Red? all you need is J'onn, Wally, Guy and Dinah and you got all the living JLI big guns back in a book. I can't wait to see what's going to happen with the JLI title that will spin off from all this. It was always my favorite League incarnation.

you need to put me on to some more NON-SUPERMAN DC books.

[1angryblack]

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/02/glcor_cv58_var1.jpg



I really like this one, might use it as wallpaper for my phone

[Broddie]

you need to put me on to some more NON-SUPERMAN DC books.

Here's a break down of all the DC books I buy every month. I feel these are the most consistent titles published by them at the moment so they actually get my money and not just a download. The problem is since many of them are not flagship titles and a lot of the flagship titles so they're overlooked.

To the point that a couple of them will be canceled soon. Which is a shame cause some of the flagship books (Ie: JLA, Superman, Wonder Woman) are going through mediocre periods so people think the whole company is reflected on that which is far from the truth. Feel free to look into whatever you think you might like.

JSA - It's going through a transition period so it's a good jumping on point. It's more curiously interesting to read now than it has been in a very long time.

Teen Titans - Found it's groove back about 4 issues ago with the creative team. Latest issue is a let down though cause of lack of Nicolla Scott art. It was very messy and ugly but it's a well written book. I respect it more cause of the last issue. It was true to a lot of those characters.

Azrael - About to end soon but it had a great rune especially when David Hine stepped in. The unsung title of the bat family books.

Detective Comics - THE best Batman book on the market right now. Since Batman Incorporated has been grossly delayed.

Red Robin - This book has finally found it's groove. Been on point for the past few months right now.

Batgirl - Never thought a book starring a character I never cared about would be one of my favorites every month. Seriously Miller and Nguyen are doing miracles here this is great stuff.

Secret Six - Slipped some but still has some moments of greatness.

Green Lantern - See Secret Six.

Green Lantern Corps - Best GL book on the market right now.

Green Lantern: Emerald Warriors - Fucking hilarious cause of crude Guy being it's star. I think it's playing it's role of the more "everyman" style GL book. I found seeing what happened with Kilowog and his reactions to what happened with the rookie lanterns in the intro arc more interesting than most things happening in GL proper. Plus the return of Sodom Yat.

The Flash - Personally am enjoying it though I see many older flash fans getting tight just cause they're not writing it for them but for newer readers. God forbid DC decides to cater to new fans. I think this cleaner slate is allowing for some imagination being brought back. Much better than that Wally and his fam as The Incredibles phase that came right before it. I think it's the best thing Johns is doing right now by far of all the books he writes.

Booster Gold - My favorite DC ongoing right now as far as the mainstream continuity is concerned.

Jonah Hex - It's so good even non-western fans sing it's praises once exposed to it's sheer awesomeness.

R.E.B.E.L.S. - Canceled because fans that complain about wanting "something different" never buy it when it's given to them. Nice perspective of the DC cosmos outside of the GL books. Wil go down as one of the best LEGION runs in the history of Vril Dox's LEGION.

Sweet Tooth - Pure fucking poetry, every month. Like seriously the post-apocalyptic Vertigo ongoings keep getting better and better as they go. It's really baffling.

Freedom Fighters - Ending soon before it ever really began but one of the most fucked up incarnations of this book yet. In a good way. If you were a fan of the Palmiotti/Gray mini's then pick up the eventual trade.

Zatanna - It's Paul Dini writing his most favorite character in the whole world. So yes it's more often than not a blast to read. This book has lots of heart. Even the fill in issues weren't bad.

Northlanders - Kick ass blend of historical fiction with comic books. Norsemen fucking each other up and killing christians during the crusades and other kick ass shit that happened in the northlands hundreds of years back.

T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents - Expendable (the heroes' power suits could kill them) superhero espionage action. If that doesn't peak your interest then I humbly say "Fuck You sir" lol.

I'm also copping a couple of DC published ongoings right now. Knight & Squire (the british dynamic duo Morrison has toyed with in his run). It's written by Paul Cornell also known as "he who singlehandedly saved Action Comics" has a lot of great british quirkiness. It's like a fucking Monty Python take on Batman just really cool shit overall. The british Joker is that dude for reasons that the real Joker could never be.

Also The New York Five Brian Wood's follow up to his soap opera style New York Four mini. If you like reading comics about chicks in black and white (think the more "normal" parts of Strangers in Paradise) then give this a look.

[1angryblack]

That's a fucking great breakdown Broddie, granted I don't read alot of DC but I do read the majority you have listed. Sweet Tooth is just the top dog in my book. This book depresses the shit out of me every month I read it but it's addicting...just want to find out every month the latest bad news.

T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents is my guilty pleasure since it reminds me of the original series.

[Broddie]

(Ie:Wonder Woman) are going through mediocre period



In the case of this title upon re-reading #601 - 607 today I humbly take the "it's mediocre" comment back. It's actually not bad.

[JxXxR]

i would say Generation Lost but it's about to end but it is a great book

[Dr Doom]

False has actually been reading Generation Lost, he's like the only person besides me constantly heralding Max Lord as the best villain out right now.

[Dr Doom]

So... one of Earth's Green Lanterns will no longer be a GL after WotGL is over? Sounds like a cheap gimmick.

[JxXxR]

RIP John Stewart

[Dr Doom]

lol, that's what I thought first but I honestly doubt they'll kill off the black guy like that. I fear the most for Kyle, but I suspect it will be Guy.

[JxXxR]

ok so i read the issue.........wow......

anyway i think it'll be John but then again if you go back to the early Brightest Day teaser

http://firestormfan.com/images/brightestday_teaser.jpg

where's John? granted Kyles not there either but the whole architect lay out with the casket....hmmmm

[Dr Doom]

I forgot about that teaser. It does seem to imply that Stewart will die.

[duckman returns]

I forgot about that teaser. It does seem to imply that Stewart will die.


SMH @ killing the black man. Throw him to a Lazarus Pit and call it a day.

[Broddie]

It's not like they do anything with him anyway. That being said I think it will be Guy too. John is the most popular lantern in media right now thanks to JLU. The general public up til the trailer of the movie thought "Green Lantern is black". Cause they're not fanboys. To them Green Lantern is a singular hero and not a term for a space cop. Also he is the token. They won't get rid of him. Compared to him and Kyle's value to the mythos right now Guy is the most expendable. It's that transparent. Anyhow time to leave this Green Lantern thread and go read my Sweet Tooth, Azrael, Freedom Fighters, Jonah Hex and Secret Six.

[JxXxR]

^good point Guy is expendable

[Beantownbrown]

It may not be a death; but that one of them will join another Corps. Maybe Guy joining the red lanterns since they are getting an ongoing that will start later this year

[JxXxR]

the manhunters 'error' was Krona's doing, also Krona is bascially responsible for creating the Green Lantern Corp

http://i54.tinypic.com/x5o7ef.jpg

[Dr Doom]

"Loss" is still a debatable term so I'm putting my bets on Guy turning full Red Lantern. And I'm not a fan of the Manhunters being corrupted by an outside force instead of simply their programming itself corrupting. The first put the full blame on the Guardians and is a stark reminder that the loss of all emotions is never a good thing, the second basically excuses the part they played in the failing of the Manhunters.

[Blackout]

It may not be a death; but that one of them will join another Corps. Maybe Guy joining the red lanterns since they are getting an ongoing that will start later this year

That's what I'm thinking too, I can see Guy leaving the GLC and becoming a RLC

[JxXxR]

this shit was 'teased' back in Green Lantern 37

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

seems like the scene with Jordan is after whomever s death and his retaliation against The Guardians ...

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[Broddie]

Lots of great releases this week (Booster, Zatanna, Batgirl, Superboy) but I'm sad there is no new issue of any vertigo title I read today. Still I forgot BATMAN INC even existed for a minute there. That was a nice surprise. Time to go read it.

[Dr Doom]

Batman Inc was a bit too much for me to take in after one read. Morrison and his super dense story telling have returned, lol.

Generation Lost was good. I expected the twist to happen but it was still nice to see. Plus now the team is really riled up to take down Max once and for all. And Rocket Red might be a stereotype, he's a stereotype that got Fire hot.

Also finally got to read Knight & Squire 5. I wonder when this is supposed to take place with non-bullet hole Joker appearing, unless there's a twist to his appearance.

[Requiem]

I had no idea what the heck was going on in Batman Inc for the first handful of pages. Was it necessary to have some of the captions in Spanish? Also the first few pages involved people I have never heard of before, which is fine, but couldn't he have started off on familiar ground?

[Dr Doom]

It did seem that for the first couple of pages Morrison was just trolling people, lol. Inc hasn't been too special so far. It's only three issues in but it misses the epic feeling of his Batman or Batman & Robin run. Speaking of the latter, the second issue of Tomasi/Gleason's B&R was much better than the first issue. This plot suddenly got quite interesting.

[Beantownbrown]

B&R looks like it's in good hands, really enjoyed the latest issue. I think it's better than Inc too. Anyone notice the Gordon scene where he comments on the
"son’s craziness ended up coming back to haunt them" with the blood spilling on his face seemed like it was a reference to what's happening over in Tec with his son back in town.

[Broddie]

Morrison writes to make people research his clues or ideas and keep em on their toes. The problem is this is a more conventional approach to literature than comic books. In other words comic book readers ain't ready to play "detective" with stories of the world's greatest detective.

They don't appreciate him turning the reader himself into Batman (as meta as it gets) when they unravel the author's puzzles. He's been doing that his entire run so far and people still don't quite get it. Personally I think he greatly overestimates the majority of comic book readers. They could only process shit when it's straight forward and filled with instant exposition. The main reason people like Geoff Johns are so popular with fanboys today in the first place with their sometimes hackneyed work. Comic readers (no slice at posters here but in general I see this online) like simple "1 + 2 = 3" shit. They don't like to go deep into what they read like fans of books do.

I mean I would figure people would know this by now after reading years worth of all his work that this is one of his things as a writer. Many of his shit challenges the reader to the point of becoming a brilliant overall experience. Yet everytime he drops a book these same people are all "omg wtf".

Granted I know spanish (dominican dialect anyway) but see even to me "duende" means goblin. Not what the argentinian dialect views it as.

So I learned something there. Duende's caption box spoke about it and it's relation to death. The other was just establishing Gaucho's alter ego Don Santiago as a boss (so he's clearly like Bruce modeled after Zorro's Don Diego) .

Here's my rough translation of his caption boxes to be more specific

"In Buenos Aires, in spring, the place to be is at the private racetracks located in the splendid villas of Don Santiago Vargas. Provider of miraculous racehorses to princes and shiek's. The most well known bachelor in buenos aires is ahead of other members of the who's who club of supermillionaires."

It really is not complex at all people. Clearly the first pages featured spy characters who's "death" at the hands of Dedalus will play a role somewhere in this arc. We know Leviathan is Morrison's SPECTRE we know that's the idea of the villains here this time so Dedalus as well as the remaining club of villains are probably branches from that tree. Just sit back and enjoy the show. The series will explore all this as it goes on.

But yeah B&R the villains hook is pretty cool. Poor Mad Hatter's family. I really like that they keep giving Grayson all these more sideshow act like villains. Not just here but in Detective and over in BATMAN. It goes well with the circus boy motif.

[Beantownbrown]

DC Comics postpones Batwoman debut again


Even as DC Comics previewed Batwoman #1 on Wednesday, word circulated online that the publisher has again canceled orders for the first two issues for resolicitation at a later date.

The move, revealed Tuesday in an email to retailers and confirmed by Comics on the Green and The Launchpad, marks the second delay in as many months. The highly anticipated series, by J.H. Williams III, W. Haden Blackman and Amy Reeder, previously had been set to debut in February. But in January, the publisher rescheduled the first issue for April — a date that appears in sneak peek included in this week’s DC titles.

Although Batwoman, which spins out of Williams and Greg Rucka’s acclaimed run on Detective Comics, was widely expected to debut last summer, Williams explained in January that was never the case.

“February had been decided on the launch date by the company with reservations about that from me,” he wrote on his blog. “I felt that was a bit too soon in a realistic look at work progression. One of the reasons for this was that I had been seriously committed to making appearances around the world over this past year. I think maybe 3 months or more of work loss occurred during that time. I kept trying to point this out whenever discussions about schedule came up. When first discussing the launch date earlier last year we had originally wanted April 2011, and now ironically that is what we have. Only after solicits stating otherwise, causing some unnecessary frustrations.”

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2011/03/dc-comics-postpones-batwoman-debut-again/

[onionknees]

Ok, so I am trying to keep follow DC a bit. I started following this Doomsday Arc where he is coming up on all the Superman stand ins that were around after he dropped Supes. So how the hell doesnt Superman realize this is happening by now? How doesnt anyone else in the JLA know about this? He dropped two of them already and will drop Superboy next month. Or am I missing something?

[Dr Doom]

Superman is currently walking across America like a wimp. I dunno why everyone's just ignoring that shit but honestly, I don't know anyone who's actively following that story either, lol.

[Broddie]

The truth is they just want to save the Superman and Doomsday showdown for Action Comic$ #900.

[Blackout]

http://i52.tinypic.com/25q9cli.jpg

Cover to Batman Inc #8

Batman fighting crime in virtual reality. That cover reminds me of the episode in Batman: TAS where he fights Riddler in a virtual reality lol

[HansumJay]

Superman is finding himself.










Finding himself without me reading that shit........................


Wonder Woman is even worse

[JxXxR]

wait a new Superman issue cam eout>

[Dr Doom]

Nope. We're just saying.

[JxXxR]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOH ok lol

[False Profit]

Birds of Prey.... let me down. Why did they switch artists for the last chapter in a big story like that? And maybe I gota read it again, but this whole "Death of Oracle" didn't seem big at all....

[Dr Doom]

Yeah, it was all very subdued and, well, non-involving.

[Broddie]

Superman is finding himself.










Finding himself without me reading that shit........................


Wonder Woman is even worse

Pshhh Wonder Woman is dope to me. Yeah it's basically an elseworlds being told in the main book but at least it's had interesting moments and great art in the beginning. Superman on the other hand has been "blah" to the 4th power. Roberson is trying his best to save it tossing in ideas like the Superman Squad and shit but I think JMS' blueprint is too convoluted to perfect. I'm sticking it out and just waiting for this to finish to see what Roberson is really capable of once he's not limited by the ideas of others.

I think a big problem with the whole GROUNDED concept is that it just doesn't work with the Superman of today. If you had told this story with the original 1938 Superman who was basically a socialist that leaped tall buildings then yeah. Maybe you could get some shit out of it.

However the character has evolved to the point of being completely different in many ways from the original Siegel/Shuster creation so it's just awkward and uninvolving for the most part as a whole. That and the antagonist is the most obnoxious character I've read in ages. Just irritating. It really needs to end. I'm kinda relieved about the upcoming Doomsday shit that's going to involve Supes (Action #900) because of this. At least it's a moment to see Kal be fucking Superman and not being a sulker. Seems like it's been way too long.

[JxXxR]

Flashpoint #2
http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/115/1155165/flashpoint-20110311041936632-000.jpg

[Dr Doom]

So the possessed Matt Murdock made his way into the DC Universe? lol

[Broddie]

All the tie-ins were announced here

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/

Which are you guys copping/reading?

I'm into the Green Arrow one, will check Project Superman for Gene Ha alone and I'm curious about Secret Seven and the Frankenstein one. The ones starring Zoom and Bart are also musts and the Abin Sur one could be fun.

However the Wonder Woman one I'm on the fence about. Nice to see Abnett & Lanning back at DC after writing what people considered to be some of the only coherent books over at marvel these past few years. But really on ANOTHER alternate WW story? when we have one currently going under Hester as well? shit I don't know I'm not even saying put them on a Legion book again but really?!?

[Dr Doom]

I'll probably end up skimming through all of them but I'm most excited about the DnA ones. The fact we're getting another alternate WW story doesn't bother me. It's weird but it makes sense in the context of this event. That Lois Lane one-shot sounds like it could be great though. Also nice to see that Jurgens is back on Booster Gold. Not that Giffen & DeMatteis are bad on any count (a fun read every month) but Booster will always be Jurgens' baby.

[Requiem]

http://i52.tinypic.com/25q9cli.jpg

Cover to Batman Inc #8

Batman fighting crime in virtual reality. That cover reminds me of the episode in Batman: TAS where he fights Riddler in a virtual reality lol
I wonder if this has anything to do with Internet 3.0 that WayneTech is launching. Bruce was talking about it briefly in Batman - The Return. Oracle is supposed to be the "ghost in the machine" in this new internet, so I suppose she may be an important part of this story arc.

[Earth-2 Superman]

grodd of war, lois lane, and green arrow look like must reads to me. im so far behind on my comics, as you can see by my lack of posting. need to catch up....

[Dr Doom]

I wonder if this has anything to do with Internet 3.0 that WayneTech is launching. Bruce was talking about it briefly in Batman - The Return. Oracle is supposed to be the "ghost in the machine" in this new internet, so I suppose she may be an important part of this story arc.

Damn, that's a good catch.


Pshhh Wonder Woman is dope to me. Yeah it's basically an elseworlds being told in the main book but at least it's had interesting moments and great art in the beginning. Superman on the other hand has been "blah" to the 4th power. Roberson is trying his best to save it tossing in ideas like the Superman Squad and shit but I think JMS' blueprint is too convoluted to perfect. I'm sticking it out and just waiting for this to finish to see what Roberson is really capable of once he's not limited by the ideas of others.

You got any evidence that the Supermen Squad came from Roberson himself? Because I honestly don't want this to be one of those "let's say all good ideas come from the new co-writer" situations. While JMS' writing was very flawed, he wasn't without his strong moments like the scene below.

http://i56.tinypic.com/syt6ac.jpg

[Broddie]

Damn, that's a good catch.



You got any evidence that the Supermen Squad came from Roberson himself? Because I honestly don't want this to be one of those "let's say all good ideas come from the new co-writer" situations. While JMS' writing was very flawed, he wasn't without his strong moments like the scene below.

http://i56.tinypic.com/syt6ac.jpg

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/12/15/chris-roberson-superman-phil-hester-wonder-woman-interview/

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?id=30994&page=article

http://geek-news.mtv.com/2011/02/15/exclusive-interview-chris-roberson-talks-stan-lee%E2%80%99s-starborn-superman-and-more/

but to be more specific it's in the last link but all those links are worth reading

'eMptyTV: In our interview with JMS, he said you’re picking up right where he left off, and going in the direction he laid out. How accurate is that? Is there a point when you are allowed, Editorially, to branch off?

Roberson: The analogy that I’ve used to describe it is that of a cross-country road trip. The outline that I was handed was like a travel itinerary, specifying particular stops along the way, and spelled out where and when Superman was to wrap up his story. But there is a lot of room for side-trips and improvisation along the way.

For example, JMS’s outline for issue 708 called for a meeting with Wonder Woman, but there was room for me to add in new elements (the Superman Squad and the Fortress of Solidarity, for example) that helped put Superman’s emotional crisis is context. And in other instances things that had been planned had to be changed because of developments in other books. For example, losing a planned guest star meant I could instead bring Batman onstage and flashback to an early Clark Kent/Bruce Wayne team-up, as will be seen in issue 710. I think more than anything, though, are the brief cameos and new characters that I’ve been able to work into the storyline, beginning with the Sensational Character Find of 2011 on page 1 of Superman 709!'

[False Profit]

Anybody read Legion of SuperVillains? Shit was great. GREAT.

Which means that everyone else will find it mediocre. I've been mostly ignoring LoSH, but if the quality is like that... naw who am I kidding. I just love well written villain books. Comics could use more of them. Hear Me, Marvel?

[False Profit]

oh, and I'm waiting on pins and needles for The Canterbury Cricket. The story just.... calls out to me.

[Dr Doom]

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/12/15/chris-roberson-superman-phil-hester-wonder-woman-interview/

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?id=30994&page=article

http://geek-news.mtv.com/2011/02/15/exclusive-interview-chris-roberson-talks-stan-lee%E2%80%99s-starborn-superman-and-more/

but to be more specific it's in the last link but all those links are worth reading

'eMptyTV: In our interview with JMS, he said you’re picking up right where he left off, and going in the direction he laid out. How accurate is that? Is there a point when you are allowed, Editorially, to branch off?

Roberson: The analogy that I’ve used to describe it is that of a cross-country road trip. The outline that I was handed was like a travel itinerary, specifying particular stops along the way, and spelled out where and when Superman was to wrap up his story. But there is a lot of room for side-trips and improvisation along the way.

For example, JMS’s outline for issue 708 called for a meeting with Wonder Woman, but there was room for me to add in new elements (the Superman Squad and the Fortress of Solidarity, for example) that helped put Superman’s emotional crisis is context. And in other instances things that had been planned had to be changed because of developments in other books. For example, losing a planned guest star meant I could instead bring Batman onstage and flashback to an early Clark Kent/Bruce Wayne team-up, as will be seen in issue 710. I think more than anything, though, are the brief cameos and new characters that I’ve been able to work into the storyline, beginning with the Sensational Character Find of 2011 on page 1 of Superman 709!'

Well damn, JMS lost.

[Broddie]

oh, and I'm waiting on pins and needles for The Canterbury Cricket. The story just.... calls out to me.

I have a feeling that would end up being the sleeper of the bunch. Something tells me that it's far more important to Flashpoint than we currently assume. BTW LoSH by Levitz = awesomesauce in a can.


Well damn, JMS lost.

When it comes to GROUNDED the man just can't win. I hope Roberson stays as the regular writer after all of this. The way he talks up everything from the silver to bronze & modern age Superman with such detail and understanding tells me he's right for the job. He certainly comes across much more as the "uberfan" that JMS always tried to sell himself as whenever he spoke on Supes than JMS ever did.

[JxXxR]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1300118317.jpg
While DC Comics blockbuster bi-weekly "Brightest Day" reintroduced a number of its core heroes to the DCU, the follow-up book looks to send at least one such hero against his fellow vigilantes.

Announced today on the publisher's The Source blog, "Brightest Day Aftermath: The Search" will hit shelves in June from writer Jonathan Vankin and artist Marco Castiello. Though the finale of "Brightest Day" itself – and the final fate of resurrected heroes like Deadman and Aquaman – remains under wraps, this three-issue follow up will focus on another returned hero who finds themselves at odds with DC's super community. As the Source put it "the new protector of Earth has been chosen - but one reluctant hero makes a return to try and convince Batman, Superman and the rest of the DC Universe's heroes that this may not be a good thing at all."

Until recently a Vertigo editor himself, Vankin is perhaps best known to readers for writing "Vertigo Pop! Tokyo" and a number of other mini series for the publisher while Castiello has recently worked on "Green Arrow."

"Brightest Day" proper wraps up on April 20 with the extra-size issue #24.

For more on "Brightest Day Aftermath: The Search," check out The Source, and stay tuned to CBR for more as it becomes available.

[Dr Doom]

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7523/s640x480cs.jpg

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/9365/luthorcakes.jpg
GOAT INSIDE JOKE! :rofl

[JxXxR]

that last few pages were basically a FU to the people complaining about the flash seeing blurs and superman being 'depressed'

[Dr Doom]

Yeah, Roberson basically rewrote all the "huh?" stuff in JMS' early issues.

[jpeso]

Red Robins costume in the unternet is dope, they should switch it to that one full time.

[Requiem]

Red Robins costume in the unternet is dope, they should switch it to that one full time.
I haven't been following Red Robin, is it worth the read?

[jpeso]

I haven't been following Red Robin, is it worth the read?

its one of the few dc books i follow and read so i would say check it out.

[Dr Doom]

Red Robin is a fun side-book. Okay but nothing too special. On the other hand there's still R.E.B.E.L.S. being as awesome as ever. Also:

http://cdn.the-gutters.com/comics/c2e575186f6af2fc39955c199d3caf6377861a29.jpg
:dead:

[False Profit]

aside from the fact that superman was in it, Power Girl was good.

REBELS.... I didn't expect Starro to get bitchslapped like that.

[Dr Doom]

Yeah, I don't know how to feel about the bitchslap because Starro not being the super bad-ass he was first presented as bothers me. Even if he's facing Lobo, lol.

[False Profit]

yeah, dude was presented as clearly being Thanos level. And he had this shocked look on has face too. You know, the one women give that says "I have just been victimized"?

[Dr Doom]

Seriously, he was pussying out like a bitch.

[Beantownbrown]

http://i52.tinypic.com/kb23m.jpg

The Flash comes to an end in May


DC Comics announced this morning that The Flash will end with May ‘s Issue 12, a result of its upcoming Flashpoint crossover. Curiously, a 13th issue is solicited for June.

Debuting in April 2010 on the heels of The Flash: Rebirth, the relaunched title teamed writer Geoff Johns with artist Francis Manapul, re-established Barry Allen as the Fastest Man Alive and built toward Flashpoint. So perhaps it was inevitable that the series would end as DC’s big Flash-centric event gears up.

The solicitation text gives little clue as to what to expect from the finale — other than it’s probably not good for Barry: “‘The Road to Flashpoint’ concludes as everything Barry Allen knows and cares about is lost. What is the Flashpoint? Find out in the upcoming Flashpoint #1!”

The Flash #12 arrives in stores on May 11, the same day as Flashpoint #1.

[Dr Doom]

It seems Flashpoint might actually stir some major shit up for the Flash(es). Meanwhile in Knight & Squire, Birthday Girl may have become my favorite superhero, lol.

[Dr Doom]

So for once, can we not just ignore T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents until someone drops a 'later this week' reminder that it is a great book and actually talk about its greatness? Because seriously, this book is that uncut crack. The terrorist brother's speech was sick.

[False Profit]

*goes to read thunder agents, because he hasn't read a single issue*

[Dr Doom]

You didn't? Boy, did you fuck up!

[False Profit]

shut up, Doom! you sound like my girlfriend!

[Dr Doom]

At least you have one, you cunt!

[False Profit]

sometimes.

anyway, I read them all. pretty good stuff. not GREAT stuff, but it's pretty good. The swerve in the last issue was unexpected and enjoyable....

[Broddie]

So for once, can we not just ignore T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents until someone drops a 'later this week' reminder that it is a great book and actually talk about its greatness? Because seriously, this book is that uncut crack. The terrorist brother's speech was sick.

It was pretty damn good. It's nice to see the POV of terrorists for a change it's not too often that it's shown in media. Also like the execution of the twist. It wasn't just some "mustache twirling" awareness as usual. There was genuine confusion there as there always are with deep covers. Good writing.

Anyway Zatanna is fucked, Northlanders is beast and David Hine is boss.

[JxXxR]

When a very young fan asked whether DC was better than Marvel, Begranza said, "Let's put it this way...we lowered our prices and didn't lie about it."
:shots: *reloads...

[JxXxR]

Rumor has it the White Lantern is either

Don Hall..which makes the most sense if not Deadman

or

Swamp Thing ....seriously i keep seein this on boards...even tho the panel said the "protector' has shown up in Brightest Day already

[Blackout]

LOL Loved this scence; classic!

http://i54.tinypic.com/2wn1x0p.jpg

[Dr Doom]

That was truly awesome.

[Blackout]

I'm not familiar with the Green Lantern history so I got some questions. In Green Lantern 64 it's brought out that the 1st Lantern fell from grace. Who was he? Was there a story about him? And where did all these other Lantern Corps come from?

[Dr Doom]

I'm not sure who that was referring to either. Anyway, Ganthet done aquamanned himself, smh.

[JxXxR]

I'm not familiar with the Green Lantern history so I got some questions. In Green Lantern 64 it's brought out that the 1st Lantern fell from grace. Who was he? Was there a story about him? And where did all these other Lantern Corps come from?

RORI DAG was the first member of the Green Lantern Corp, but to 'fall from grace' i dont think so..especially since Johns is writing it chronologically first gl to fall, then krona, then sinestro then hal...so i doubt they are talkin about Rori...my jaw literally hit the floor when i turned the page "IMPURITY RESTORED" lol

[JxXxR]

reading GLC...shit just got real again lol...just a few pages in..they are NOT playing in this event..and it 'makes sense' why they are at war with each other

[JxXxR]

I'm not sure who that was referring to either. Anyway, Ganthet done aquamanned himself, smh.

LMAO!!!!!! the AIEEEEEEEEE killed me...like really? AIEEEEEEEEEE?

wait..how the fuck is Kyle's mask still on?lol
could the first fallen be the person the guardians were talking to a few issues back? they never showed us who this person was but he was in chains

[JxXxR]

next week Brightest Day
http://www.dccomics.com/media/product/1/7/17537_400x600.jpg

[Jack Roller]

Batman Inc is just fucking cool.

[Dr Doom]

next week Brightest Day
http://www.dccomics.com/media/product/1/7/17537_400x600.jpg

Is it safe to say now that DC is ripping off Marvel's Fear Itself teasers with powered up characters? Since everybody is always claiming Marvel is ripping DC off? lol

Btw, now that House Of Hush in Streets Of Gotham has finally ended, what's the verdict? The pacing of the arc killed most of my interest but I stuck with it because it was Dini and in the end the arc seemed little more than a story to get rid of Hush looking like Bruce now that Bruce is back.

Speaking of pacing issues, this was probably the first issue of Generation Lost I wasn't feeling too much, because despite Wonder Woman being 'reset' in the timeline with nobody knowing about her or being able to find her, they suddenly all did. And with only one issue to go, I can't imagine that issue not being rushed either (strange enough, Brightest Day is suffering from the same problem as if neither Johns, Tomasi or Winick remembered they had only 24 issues until they were 22 issues into the story).

[JxXxR]

seems so..it's kinda ironic how close the events are and have similar themes whether a year apart or during the same time..either way we win lol

[JxXxR]

GeoffJohns0 Geoff Johns
Announced at Megacon: After BRIGHTEST DAY I'll be moving over to a new book - AQUAMAN #1 coming later this year!! :)

ill be buying it..PLEASSSSSSSSSSSSSSE let Ivan Reis be the artist

[HansumJay]

Yeah that whole Hush getting his face cut off shit reaked of BND

[Broddie]

ill be buying it..PLEASSSSSSSSSSSSSSE let Ivan Reis be the artist

http://www.2dopeboyz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/cripwalk3gv.gif

I don't care who does the art I'll be buying 2 copies.

Can't comment on Doom's post as I'm behind on all 3 series. Will catch up today but right now reading the latest Supergirl and Daredevil: Reborn is a lot more of a priority.

[Dr Doom]

Yeah that whole Hush getting his face cut off shit reaked of BND

I wouldn't be that harsh, lol.

And I can't say I'm too excited for Johns' Aquaman, but that might change depending on what else he's writing, or better, what else he won't be writing (like Bendis he's suffering from work overload).

[JxXxR]

I wouldn't be that harsh, lol.

And I can't say I'm too excited for Johns' Aquaman, but that might change depending on what else he's writing, or better, what else he won't be writing (like Bendis he's suffering from work overload).

well after Brightest Day is done & im assuming this will be AFTER Flashpoint, he'll be writing The Flash & Green Lantern with Aquaman that would be three titles

[duckman returns]

Man, GL: Emerald Warriors and 'Tec comics were some enjoyable ass reads.

[Dr Doom]

Detective Comics has been great for a while now. I like the ambiguity Snyder is introducing regarding the mental state and possible crimes of his son.

[duckman returns]

Detective Comics has been great for a while now. I like the ambiguity Snyder is introducing regarding the mental state and possible crimes of his son.


Snyder's run is great, but this issue was just......wow. Just as good as Morrison's Batman. Spent a lot of time reading it. And the most enjoyment I had reading a comic book in a good minute.

[Dr Doom]

I'd say this issue was on par with last issue of Jim talking to James in that diner. The water spilling underneath the door, that constant air of pure tension and suspense, this story has just been perfection so far.

[duckman returns]

I'd say this issue was on par with last issue of Jim talking to James in that diner. The water spilling underneath the door, that constant air of pure tension and suspense, this story has just been perfection so far.


and telling the life story of James Jr. was some creepy ass shit. Like he never crying and always pushing his father's buttons as a kid (like he dressing up as The Joker during a Halloween segment).


and DC better keep him around for several more years. Can't let him go to Marvel like Brubaker and Rucka

[Dr Doom]

He signed an exclusive contract to DC a year ago so he isn't leaving any time soon.

[JxXxR]

GL: EW was a good read, but wonder how they'll leave earth now and get to Oa without the rings...

[Earth-2 Superman]

Gotham Sirens was good too. what joker did to that guards son was ruthless.

[Requiem]

GL: EW was a good read, but wonder how they'll leave earth now and get to Oa without the rings...
I didn't enjoy GL this week. It seemed like a, this is where we are at book, like a summarization of the past couple of months to get people caught up. Having Guy and Hal fight seemed exactly like having Kyle and John fight, didn't feel that new. I think this was the weakest of the three so far as we didn't see anything except for Guy and Hal trade blows for the last half of the book. I think the bulk of this story will be told in GL and GL: Corps.

[Broddie]

I feel you on that Requiem. I personally think this shows much more promise than the past couple GL events. Primarily since it's contained in the GL books Sinestro Corps War style. I liked the first 2 issues a lot but by now the opening premise for the arc is tired. It's got that Blackest Night syndrome now where the same thing is pretty much happening in every issue.

1) Lanterns try to return to OA after their respective missions

2) Lanterns get corrupted by the Parrallax influence within the power battery and go hogwild.

3) Lanterns get conscious remove ring and get ready for next step.

Hopefully since this is the last GL book we're done with that type of development and now on to the next phase.

SIDENOTE: If you're not reading Zatanna or Action Comics you're losing like your last name was Jones.

[Dr Doom]

I'm not reading Zatanna (I just don't care much for her mythology) but Action Comics was great. A non-physical face-off (except for the neck snap, lol) between two great minds. Plus Lex God!

[JxXxR]

"You will see more on the backstory of the Guardians," Johns said, speaking of their evolution into their current, shorter forms.

i knew those fucks were tall...LOL at ppl sayin no it's perspective ..no they were tall.

[False Profit]

anybody read scalped?

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j157/DevilotsAdvocate/scans/scalped_47_0020.jpg

FUCK I thought he was going to make it out or stay in the clear.... but once that crazy fool crosses your path, you're done.

Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here.

[False Profit]

oh, and Lex sonned Brainiac so badly that he shouldn't have even been on the cover.

[Beantownbrown]

Ivan Reis and Joe Prado to draw Aquaman


The newly announced Aquaman series will re-team Geoff Johns with Brightest Day artists Ivan Reis and Joe Prado, the writer revealed today at WonderCon 2011 in San Francisco.

“I don’t think you can get much better in comics,” Johns said during the DC Nation panel. “Everything the do elevates the characters they work on, and we hope to do the same for Aquaman.”

Announced last weekend during MegaCon, the new Aquaman will mark the seventh series for the 70-year-old character. Although he was left dead with the cancellation of Sword of Atlantis in 2007, the sea king was resurrected during Blackest Night before going on to play a central role in the current Brightest Day series.

Johns has insisted that Aquaman is one of DC Comics’ A-list characters, telling Comic Book Resources in December that, “He’s got to be showcased like that, and he’s got to kick ass like Green Lantern or Batman or the entire Justice League.”

Aquaman #1 is expected to debut later this year.

[Broddie]

Ivan Reis and Joe Prado to draw Aquaman

Once JxXxR reads this he'll go into cardiac arrest.

I re-read Busiek's Sword of Atlantis today. Holds up pretty well actually. Matter of fact now that Garth is dead and we already got a new Aqualad I'd like Johns to bring back Arthur Joseph in a Tempest-like role. It'd be a shame to completely waste a character that could add even more depth for Johns to explore in a new Aquaman series. This series needs to be as epic as it's potential allows. I'm talking about Silver Age Aquaman or Sub-Diego era Aquaman comics times 10.

That would be some brilliant shit that would finally introduce many comic readers to Aquaman. Since many have always ignored his books and just paint him as a corny guy who talks fish when in reality he has always been one of the strongest characters in the DCU IMO. So much great concepts to explore and nobody really does it cause they never really knew Orin. I have faith in Johns based on previous treatments of Arthur/Orin by him I just hope he doesn't blow it. This could be the start of something big and finally a time for Aquaman to finally get his just due and get in the place he's always deserved to be in in the eyes of fans.

Like what he did for Hal. I remember before the relaunch I was probably the last Hal Jordan fan I knew. I even followed Johns' "Hal as spectre" epic cause he was MY Green Lantern since I've been reading since Gerard Jones. But a lot of people simply didn't care. To them Hal was a bland character that didn't become 3 dimensional UNTIL he became Parallax. Which is bullshit as he was always a rich character even way before that.

To me Hal was ALWAYS THE Green Lantern as much as I like John, Guy and Kyle that's just how it was but a lot of people felt otherwise. They grew to love Kyle way much more. The fact is a lot of people never gave Hal his props even when he was still a good guy back in the late 80's very early 90's. Matter of fact even though it had A-list quality damn near everytime GL was a B-lister at best before the Rebirth.

Hal's downfall meant a lot to me as a kid but I'm sure most people who read comics were just like "meh". It's understandable since the majority always gave the Marvels a chance before anybody in DC without an S or bat on their chest. Just the way things were even though I never got it cause IMO DC characters are just overall much better but I digress.

Anyway those were the days where the general comic book fan only followed Bats & Supes when it came to DC. Now Hal is finally in his rightful place in the eyes of general comic book fans. Matter of fact he's outshined Kal and given Bruce a run for his money in terms of popularity. Many even say he should be the other 1/3 of the Trinity and NOT Diana. Arthur needs that same treatment cause he's an even greater character than Hal. It's just a shame most people don't even know it.

The stigma of SUPERFRIENDS will ALWAYS be that strong unfortunately unless the right measures are taken with this series. Just embrace the mythos is all I say. ALL of it, don't divert too much cause when you try to do a PAD and make him a Namor clone well you get some cool stories but it just doesn't really work overall cause it's JUST NOT Aquaman. I say take a card from the Brave & The Bold toon. Make him a majestic king who's still very much an optimist and upbeat guy in contrast to his peers despite being in a shitty world. But also not a pushover by any means. Like in the silver age. It automatically makes him "fresh" again and all it really is at the end is going back to the character's roots.

[Beantownbrown]

The White Lantern Revealed

Spoilers on who the White Lantern is and a one page preview from Brightest Day #23

“The White Lantern is the Swamp Thing

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/04/05/big-brightest-day-spoilers-you-will-kill-youself-if-you-read/

[JxXxR]

The White Lantern Revealed

Spoilers on who the White Lantern is and a one page preview from Brightest Day #23

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/04/05/big-brightest-day-spoilers-you-will-kill-youself-if-you-read/


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUCK i was WAAAAAAAAAY Off....i could of sworn it was Don Hall...shit....but now im going 'WTF REALLY?!?!.........how?" lol

[JxXxR]

Once JxXxR reads this he'll go into cardiac arrest.

http://i56.tinypic.com/1y50nd.gif

indeed sir..indeed

[False Profit]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUCK i was WAAAAAAAAAY Off....i could of sworn it was Don Hall...shit....but now im going 'WTF REALLY?!?!.........how?" lol


I'ma say it like I already said. From one perspective, it make perfect sense.

But from a HISTORICAL point, that shit does NOT MAKE SENSE AT ALL.

[JxXxR]

I'ma say it like I already said. From one perspective, it make perfect sense.

But from a HISTORICAL point, that shit does NOT MAKE SENSE AT ALL.

please explain lol cuz i dont understand (then again i never read Swamp Thing, nor have i read DC that long only from....Identity Crisis but even then very sparingly)


it doesnt make ANY sense to me..unless cuz he was swamp thing and he is "Composed of vegetative matter.Planet Elemental, former Biochemist" so he's INTUNED with the earth then it's a stretch i guess cuz 'Earth's savior/Go Green/Earth-Plant" shit..but still...wtf?? lol

[False Profit]

Because Swamp Thing is the... well.. read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_of_Trees

so from that standpoint, it DOES make sense for Alec Holland to be The White Lantern. Swamp Thing is actually an analogue for Gaia Theory, with the Earth and plant life as a living organism, and all animal life being exempt from it. Animals and shit are part of The Red in DCU. Just like you see in that article that all people with plant based powers are connected to The Green, people like Vixen, Animal Man and B'Wana Beast are connected and powered through The Red. Anyway...

The reason why it DOESNT make sense is that Swamp Thing was NEVER Alec Holland to begin with. Swamp Thing's memories and such are only PATTERNED after Alec Holland's. Used as a template.

So if you make a resurrected Alec Holland The White Lantern, then he wouldn't have any Swamp Thing memories, powers, or a connection to The Green. He'd just be a dead dude picked at random wondering what the hell was a "swamp thing". lol

[False Profit]

I'm also waiting on Broddie to come in here, claim I don't know my history and correct me while quoting a page out of some DC 60 Cent Supermarket Digest from 1989.

[Dr Doom]

It's Johns so I'm sure he's going to retcon all that shit, lol.

[duckman returns]

I'm also waiting on Broddie to come in here, claim I don't know my history and correct me while quoting a page out of some DC 60 Cent Supermarket Digest from 1989.

:rofl

[JxXxR]

ok ok ok i got it.so i was SOMEWHAT right before even reading that...but yea im waiting on Broodie to come type a mean essay also just so i can get it even more lol

reading this also seems that it IS 'him' even tho it 'isnt' lol
Swamp Thing was reinvented as an elemental entity created upon the death of Alec Holland, having somehow absorbed Holland's memory and personality into itself. He is described as "a plant that thought it was Alec Holland, a plant that was trying its level best to be Alec Holland."


this makes complete sense now
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1302072395.jpg

our new White Lantern BEFORE he was chosen..and was a Black Lantern SPOILERS
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1302089301.jpg

[Broddie]

I'm also waiting on Broddie to come in here, claim I don't know my history and correct me while quoting a page out of some DC 60 Cent Supermarket Digest from 1989.

*rolling on a BBQ sauce covered floor laughing*

My ***** you called them out on the same shit I would've (Swamp Thing at least since Moore revamped it was NEVER quite exactly Alec Holland) Holland's conscious memories were one small part of a whole different whole. So much kudos to you False. Oh and J if you've never read Swamp Thing I will say proceed with caution. Alan Moore's Swamp Thing is so marvelously awesome that if one is not prepared for that level of powerfully brilliant writing it is capable of actually impregnating a member of the male gender that is exposed to it. True fucking story.

[Broddie]

Oh and since I don't buy this book I'm gonna have to download this ish as usual. Can someone kindly PM me the password to that oh so special magical place that gives access to such things por favor.

[JxXxR]

^did you get it yet?

[Broddie]

Yes sir. I'll check it out when I get back from class tonight.

[JxXxR]

http://www.ifanboy.com/content/articles/The_Brightest_Day__23_Spoiler_and_Why_it_s_Importa nt

that summed up everything i needed to know basically on why the fuck the tree/forest was in star city and why ***** ***** was Black Lantern and **** ******* was risen/ aquaman,hawks,firestorm, MM was protecting THAT tree ok i got it

[Blackout]

Can I get a recommendation on Swamp Thing stories? Never read anything about him; I'd like to see what all hype is about.

[False Profit]

^^ whatup, Blackout. Good to see you round these parts.

Really, just pick up Moore's run and you're good.


* Saga of the Swamp Thing (collects #21-27, 1987, hardcover contains #20-27, 2009)
* Swamp Thing: Love and Death (collects #28-34 & Annual #2, 1990; hardcover 2009)
* Swamp Thing: The Curse (collects #35-42, 2000)
* Swamp Thing: A Murder of Crows (collects #43-50, 2001)
* Swamp Thing: Earth to Earth (collects #51-56, 2002)
* Swamp Thing: Reunion (collects #57-58, 60-61, 63-64, 2003)


And despite the fact that Mark Millar wrote the book from somewhere like 140 to 170, and him and Grant Morrison wrote a bunch of issues AT THE SAME TIME.... just save yourself some disappointment and stay as far away from those issues as possible. lol

And despite what some may think, it's not superhero stuff at all. There's a lot of weirdness in there, though. And it's... heavy. Really heavy. They wouldn't let Moore write Swamp Thing as the cross that Jesus was crucified on heavy.

[1angryblack]

Did I ever mention that I really like Doom Patrol, the book is so out there but for some reason I can't stop reading it.

[Dr Doom]

Jonah Hex stays going hard on hoes. Just straight up fucked those bitches up, lmao.

[JxXxR]

anyone have a link for the Alan Moore stories? since ....this is basically based on that

[sirded]

HA! Look stark richser than bruce

http://www.forbes.com/lists/fictional15/2011/forbes-fictional-15.html

[Broddie]

Did I ever mention that I really like Doom Patrol, the book is so out there but for some reason I can't stop reading it.

Nothing to be ashamed of, those characters have always been fantastic. A prime example of what makes COMIC BOOKS so damn great. The fact that you could deal with these type of personalities and stories. I got into Giffen's run somewhat late though. Just when I was gonna start adding it to my pull list they announced it's cancelllation so I'm just waiting for the trades. It's a real fucking shame that the book is pretty much done and the plug was pulled though cause it's extremely inventive and entertaining.

[Earth-2 Superman]

im really confused at Batman Beyond. Is it now officially part of DC continuity? The last issue seems to imply so.

[1angryblack]

Nothing to be ashamed of, those characters have always been fantastic. A prime example of what makes COMIC BOOKS so damn great. The fact that you could deal with these type of personalities and stories. I got into Giffen's run somewhat late though. Just when I was gonna start adding it to my pull list they announced it's cancelllation so I'm just waiting for the trades. It's a real fucking shame that the book is pretty much done and the plug was pulled though cause it's extremely inventive and entertaining.

Damn Broddie why you always dropping bad news on s*** I like...LOL

Just a damn shame this is happening. I have always loved Doom Patrol and the version Grant Morrison did was great too...man this just sucks.

[False Profit]

im really confused at Batman Beyond. Is it now officially part of DC continuity? The last issue seems to imply so.

yeah. Morrison's run has pretty much made every Batman story ever printed canon.

[Earth-2 Superman]

yeah. Morrison's run has pretty much made every Batman story ever printed canon.

its not just that. From the Supes/Bat annual some time back, it implied that in regular canon, it was Damian who got old and raised Terry to be the next Batman. Bruce and Dick had nothing to do with it. Then another issue, along with the first and 2nd Batman Beyond arcs, it seemed like they were sticking completely by the carton canon, making the book take place on an alternate earth. They even showed the son of hawkgirl and jon stewart, Warhawk, who cant even technically exist in DC canon. Now in this one, they mention Batman Inc., multiple batmans, even show the canon Nightwing outfit.

Thats not to say the book was bad, it was alot of fun and the art was beautiful. But I hate when shit like this happens. smh @ adam beechen. all these years writing comics and still making these errors.

[Dr Doom]

Secret Six is getting interesting again. Very, very interesting.

[Blackout]

^^ whatup, Blackout. Good to see you round these parts.

Really, just pick up Moore's run and you're good.



And despite the fact that Mark Millar wrote the book from somewhere like 140 to 170, and him and Grant Morrison wrote a bunch of issues AT THE SAME TIME.... just save yourself some disappointment and stay as far away from those issues as possible. lol

And despite what some may think, it's not superhero stuff at all. There's a lot of weirdness in there, though. And it's... heavy. Really heavy. They wouldn't let Moore write Swamp Thing as the cross that Jesus was crucified on heavy.

Cool, I'll check them out. Good looks on these

[1angryblack]

Secret Six is getting interesting again. Very, very interesting.

Oh that shit was good, too many things are going on in the background and above ground that the final resolution will not be pretty.

[Jack Roller]

I am really anxious to see wtf happens in the next issue of Secret Six. I wonder if they'll use the card on the girl that just got kidnapped. I also wonder if this will have lasting effects for Bane. He seemed more than a bit insulted that his code of honor meant nothing in hell.

[duckman returns]

its not just that. From the Supes/Bat annual some time back, it implied that in regular canon, it was Damian who got old and raised Terry to be the next Batman. Bruce and Dick had nothing to do with it. Then another issue, along with the first and 2nd Batman Beyond arcs, it seemed like they were sticking completely by the carton canon, making the book take place on an alternate earth. They even showed the son of hawkgirl and jon stewart, Warhawk, who cant even technically exist in DC canon. Now in this one, they mention Batman Inc., multiple batmans, even show the canon Nightwing outfit.

Thats not to say the book was bad, it was alot of fun and the art was beautiful. But I hate when shit like this happens. smh @ adam beechen. all these years writing comics and still making these errors.



Yeah, but Batman Beyond needs to be written by Paul Dini (Despite him writing for the new Spiderman Cartoon and Batman: AC).

[False Profit]

I am really anxious to see wtf happens in the next issue of Secret Six. I wonder if they'll use the card on the girl that just got kidnapped. I also wonder if this will have lasting effects for Bane. He seemed more than a bit insulted that his code of honor meant nothing in hell.

....oh you didn't know?

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j157/DevilotsAdvocate/scans/18403_600x900.jpg

yo azz betta call sommebooodddaaaayyyyyyyy


nah that's the cover to issue 34, so who knows how this'll turn out?

[Earth-2 Superman]

ha ha they straight up disrespected aquaman in DC Universe Legends. just forgot about his ass completely

[Jack Roller]

....oh you didn't know?

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j157/DevilotsAdvocate/scans/18403_600x900.jpg

yo azz betta call sommebooodddaaaayyyyyyyy


nah that's the cover to issue 34, so who knows how this'll turn out?

I need that shit NOW!

[HansumJay]

ha ha they straight up disrespected aquaman in DC Universe Legends. just forgot about his ass completely

Who's Aquaman?

[JxXxR]

After Flashpoint Every Number Will Change – In A Flash!
Submitted by Rich Johnston on April 6, 2011 – 6:58 pm (51) comments


So what happens to DC after Flashpoint then?

While Marvel have found success periodically renumbering their comics from #1s again, reverting to the larger number after a few years, DC have been slightly more sparing with this tactic.

Well, Bleeding Cool has been led to understand we can now look forward to a vast renumbering across the entire DC Universe line. Possibly a few consolidations of volumes into one big number, maybe a stunt number here and there, but mostly lot of number ones, across the entire DC Universe.

Even if at some point in the relatively near future, they rejig their numbering yet again.

Of course, it looks increasingly like some of the Flashpoint Universe continuity may remain in the DC Universe continuity, just the kind of thing to inspire a stack of number ones. And there’s one particular story I’m chasing down that, if true, would be insanely huge in the DC Universe and would guarantee all sorts of media coverage…

[Broddie]

Goddamn @ the amount of comics I bought today. $30 just on DC published singles alone. That Northlanders, Booster Gold and R.E.B.E.L.S. were especially cracktastic. Still need to go cop 3 of the 5 Marvel books I read tomorrow when I'm around the shop again cause S.H.I.E.L.D. infinity is looking pretty enticing.

[Broddie]

Who's Aquaman?

You'll find out soon enough.

[duckman returns]

Goddamn @ the amount of comics I bought today. $30 just on DC published singles alone. That Northlanders, Booster Gold and R.E.B.E.L.S. were especially cracktastic. Still need to go cop 3 of the 5 Marvel books I read tomorrow when I'm around the shop again cause S.H.I.E.L.D. infinity is looking pretty enticing.


I still have to read the likes of Red Robin and Superboy and The Flash #10. That's the only problem with DC: When they drop quality books every month, they drop it by the boatloads.

[JxXxR]

love this new character in The Flash even tho it is....The Flash lol hope they keep 'him' around

[Dr Doom]

I really hope Robertson gets to stay on Superman once Grounded is over. Batman shining an ultra-violet light into the sky to attract his attention was awesomeness and he referenced a lot of other shit, even The Return Of Bruce Wayne with Bruce saying it was the first time he encountered Savage, or at least thought so, and Savage shouting "No, it can't be!" at the bats.

Generation Lost was epicness as usual, you can hit up the Damn, That's Gangsta Thread if you need to know why.

[Broddie]

^ I knew you'd come around. Roberson has been that dude on this book for real. It would be an injustice not to keep him. He's like an amalgamation of Joe Kelly, Kurt Busiek, Cary Bates and Elliot S! Maggin when it comes to Supes. Which is a VERY good thing and just the thing the book needed to get revitalized after losing it's way for a while. Imagine when he's not limited to another writer's narrative. Man I hope they give him the chance.


I still have to read the likes of Red Robin and Superboy and The Flash #10. That's the only problem with DC: When they drop quality books every month, they drop it by the boatloads.

Well that seems to be my problem every week actually. They always release at least 4 or 5 books that I really enjoy. Then again that's a biased comment as I enjoy a shitload of their books in the first place. Like I haven't even gotten to touch the books I copped last week since I took em out the bag yet (Secret Six, Jonah Hex, Weird Worlds, Freedom Fighters, Sweet Tooth); cause I've been very busy lately with life shit and it was a lot of stuff to read in one sitting. I shall get to it all including the books I copped this week which include the ones you mentioned in this post I just quoted by sometime this weekend.

[Dr Doom]

One thing I also liked about this issue of Supes was that he didn't have the thought bubble shit. I think if he can keep a check on that he could write a very entertaining Superman. Btw, that part where Batman said some shit like "Dick said you weren't making any sense, schooling a person without powers on the average guy", total fucking ether. Robertson isn't cleaning up JMS' mess anymore, he's flat-out saying "What a mess, here's some fun reading on my account!".

I didn't realize how little I cared about Reign Of Doomsday until this issue of Superboy, which I couldn't even finish. I just skipped to the ending because so far every single one of these books has been a rehash. Doomsday attacks hero, hero fights back, reminisces events of Death Of Superman and Doomsday's legacy, realize he can adapt their powers, get asses kicked and are kidnapped. Worst build-up ever.

[Broddie]

There was a Cracked article about hilariously preachy comics, and JMS' issues with Supes burning the drugs and preaching to alien immigrants about being here illegally when he himself is an illegal alien immigrant got top spots and ethered so hilariously I e-mailed it to mad people who don't even read comic books. Glad to see Roberson is not holding back either anymore. Can't wait to read the ish later on.

That Reign of Doomsday shit I avoided like the plague. I mean I always said the character should've never been used beyond the "Death" arc cause he's just too one dimensional an unengaging to be interesting. Muthafucka can't even speak for crap's sake. I'd rather a Mxyzptlk event over that. Seriously. I'm stuck with the Superboy one though cause I buy every issue of that series. But I'm glad it at least completely skipped SUPERMAN and SUPERGIRL though. Unfortunately I think ACTION #900 is gonna have some resolution to that lame sonding shit though. Another bullet I will have to bite.

[Beantownbrown]

Scott Snyder's interested in writing Jason Todd. I would love to see how he writes him and what his ideas are for him.


Jason is a character, on the subject of Jason, I’m extremely interested in. I think there’s a ton of potential for him. I know he’s a really polarizing figure and for me, too. Personally, I wasn’t necessarily expecting him to come back when he did, but I happen to think that series, the Under the Hood series, was really underrated when it did come out, given some of the reactions to it. I was always a fan of how it was handled, in terms of the way it just played on Bruce’s emotions. For me, I think Jason has the potential, now moving past the iteration that he’s in, of being the character who’s sort the Batman with the gun or the Batman who’s willing to kill and I think there’s a lot of possibilities for him, in different ways.
I have all of these ideas for Jason that I’d love to use. I don’t have any immediate plans, but he’s a character I’d really like to write at some point and have some ideas for him.

[Beantownbrown]

Covers to Green Lantern 65 and Green Lantern Corps 59 Spoilers

http://i53.tinypic.com/s4ys8w.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/2w4bkhe.jpg

[Broddie]

Scott Snyder's interested in writing Jason Todd. I would love to see how he writes him and what his ideas are for him.

I was quite comfortable with only seeing Winick handle Jason. However if Snyder is interested then hell fucking yeah he should be allowed to explore different chambers with the character. That man has so much passion and inspiration in his writing at this point that I trust him with damn near everything. I read that he's going to bring back Cassie Cain in GATES OF GOTHAM earlier today and that has me as excited as an oversexed monkey on cocaine.

RE: the GL book covers. Well I could honestly say I'm feeling the direction this crossover is taking. What a difference containing it only to the GL books instead of over flooding the DCU with it seems to be making. It's a tight idea and ALL of those colors are spot on on with their respective wearers.

[Earth-2 Superman]

lol @ jon stewart looking like Madea

[Jack Roller]

lol @ jon stewart looking like Madea

lmao (character limit)

[Broddie]

lol @ jon stewart looking like Madea

http://images.paraorkut.com/img/funnypics/images/l/lol_monkey-12920.jpg

[Earth-2 Superman]

actually i take it back. he looks more like ms cleo

http://www.insidesocal.com/outinhollywood/cleo6.jpg

[duckman returns]

actually i take it back. He looks more like ms cleo

http://www.insidesocal.com/outinhollywood/cleo6.jpg



hahaha

[Dr Doom]

lol!

[JxXxR]

:funny:

Stewart gets no respect

[Blackout]

Hal doesn't strike me as a guy that has the ability to instill fear

[Broddie]

Hal doesn't strike me as a guy that has the ability to instill fear

He has proven to be able to control AND manipulate fear in the past like Sinestro including in the Geoff Johns stories. He has made fear itself quake in it's boots (re: as the spectre and as a lantern). Thus he's a good candidate for the ring. Conversely the same goes with Kyle, Guy and John when it comes to hope, rage and compassion.

[Krypto]

War Of the Green Lanterns spoiler, don't click if you don't want to know who the new GL for sector 2814 will be, stupid!

http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/gallery/toy-fair-2011-dc-direct/p2140727.jpg

[Dr Doom]

Not clicking that spoiler, lol. War Of The Green Lanterns is shaping up to be quite good though. Both GL and GLC were dope this week.

[Krypto]

I felt like they could have been done in one comic and the cliffhanger doesn't make sense because the entire point of his origin story is that it can't visit Oa...

[Krypto]

I dunno about the War of the GLs.......its like Johns is getting tired of writing.

He's just decompressing shit too much because his workload and position in the company are a lot different than they were four years ago. It's unfortunate because it means so many double splash pages and while I dig the art, I'm following the story first.

[False Profit]

holy shit did anybody else see that double page spread at the end of GLC? Johns got that double page spread whammy mastered!

[False Profit]

War Of the Green Lanterns spoiler, don't click if you don't want to know who the new GL for sector 2814 will be, stupid!

http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/gallery/toy-fair-2011-dc-direct/p2140727.jpg

wha... but but how!?

[False Profit]

Power Girl's new disguise makes her look like..... Gail Simone!?

But anyway, nobody's really talking about it, but I said a few months ago that Judd had just given Power Girl her own version of Lex Luthor. Now he's made her her own Clark Kent.

And it works.

This is one of the best damn books on the market.

[Dr Doom]

I knew the issue was gonna be good the second I saw the magical dinosaur with machine gun arms.

[Krypto]

wha... but but how!?

It looks like Kyle is going blue, Guy may be going red, Ion is AWOL and John is Honour Guard now... meaning Hal needs a new sector partner... and besides, he's always said he only did what he did to make the GL Corps a better corps not limited by the Guardians foolish rules.

[Blackout]

War Of the Green Lanterns spoiler, don't click if you don't want to know who the new GL for sector 2814 will be, stupid!

http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/gallery/toy-fair-2011-dc-direct/p2140727.jpg

I like it! No-one seen that coming. It'll make for an interesting story.

[JxXxR]

that doesnt mean he's the new GL lantern..it could be a action figure cuz he is in the movie but we'll see

[JxXxR]

http://www.frickbat.com/Comics/Justice%20League%201%20DC%201987.jpg

anyone know if that issue is worth some money

[JxXxR]

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/04/glcor_cv60_var.jpg

it's all good that the comics are taking some notes from the movie (the aura/lines) coming off the suit...but.....wtf is up with Hal's arm and mask

[Broddie]

What do you mean? that mask has been drawn that way hundreds of times since the 60's. I don't know about the first JLI issue's worth but I still kick myself in the head for having sold the first 25 issues of the series including the one above years ago. In light of Generation Lost especially I want to re-read that shit so badly now (yeah I know scans but it's not the same). I hope we get an omnibus one day.

[JxXxR]

What do you mean? that mask has been drawn that way hundreds of times since the 60's. I don't know about the first JLI issue's worth but I still kick myself in the head for having sold the first 25 issues of the series including the one above years ago. In light of Generation Lost especially I want to re-read that shit so badly now (yeah I know scans but it's not the same). I hope we get an omnibus one day.

the mask looks very 'parallax-y'

i ask cuz i found that issue for 99cents :cool:

[Krypto]

that doesnt mean he's the new GL lantern..it could be a action figure cuz he is in the movie but we'll see

When did this last happen? When they were trying to keep secret the developments of Blackest Night and the BL uniforms. They are trying to keep it a secret in the promo materials for a reason, this was from a retailers trade display for upcoming products and it's for the DC Direct line, not the movie tie in line. Besides, they already have made Sinestro in GL costume figure before for the DC Classics Walmart boxset and the Secret Origin DC Direct Line. Why hide it unless it's a different costume? It all makes sense.

[JxXxR]

Could be..COULD BE lol but if/since it is im not complaining love to see how it's (of him being the new lantern) explained tho

[False Profit]

I LOVED that cover. Almost bought two copies just to frame one lol it's one of the most epic Doom images ever. Can't wait to read it. Have to read Action #900 and Emerald Warriors before everything else though. Really have been enjoying War of the Green Lanterns a lot more than I ever expected to and I cannot wait to see how Cornell caps off his Luthor epic once and for all.


well I'm kinda pissed that it ended like... like THAT.

[JxXxR]

eh ok ending/beinging to the Luthor/Dommsday things....the 'Life Support' story tho... :webaywow: *continues to read

[Dr Doom]

I only read the Cornell conclusion and the Goyer story, the latter solely to see how he writes Supes. It wasn't bad but it's just so pointless to write a story about Superman giving up his 'American citizenship'. To me it undermines the whole point of Superman as the hero who aspires to how the world should be, not the world as it is. The phrase "Truth, Justice & The American Way" is vital to that. It's a phrase most people feel is ruined by modern day cynism towards America and its values, but it actually emphasizes Superman's ambitions as to restore the original values that have been lost over time. The story actually acknowledges this by having the government official and Superman admit that Supes isn't a mouthpiece of the American government (or America as a whole), so why change it? If anything Superman would just throw a case of ol' fashioned superdickery at the cynical responds of modern day audiences to the phrase and shut them down, rather than abide. Because to me, a non-American btw, that's more than abiding, it's Superman caving to the cynics. And that's just not Superman.

...

Fuck, I guess this is what it feels like to be Broddie. So moving on, the conclusion of Brightest Day was unsatisfying. Both BD and Generation Lost lacked closure in the conclusion, which simply should've been there after 24 issues. Not these faux-pas new beginnings to draw the stories out some more, although obviously I do not mind about the JLI reforming.

[JxXxR]

personally i think that story by Goyer (which wasnt bad iimo) was just a 'fuck you' to the fanboys bitching about a Brit being Superman lol

[JxXxR]

"if anyone knows how to take out a planet, it's you buddy" :oohsnap2:

[JxXxR]

well that was an good 'excuse/way' to bring Swamp Thing into the DCU imo....but there was no close to the story lol only teases to other stories which i dont mind but for those invested in this story to FIND an ending but eh...feel bad for Deadman tho, i thought he would of stayed alive i didnt think he would of taken that bow for Dove..


WHERE THE FUCK IS CONSTANTINE COME FROM?! lol he just shows up like nothing?! hahahaha i have a feeling i know how but damn lol

[False Profit]

"if anyone knows how to take out a planet, it's you buddy" :oohsnap2:

I haven't read it yet, but I saw you quote this and AUTOMATICALLY knew who/what it was referring to! That's cold blooded as hell!:rofl3::rofl3::rofl3:

[Dr Doom]

Yeah, that shit was cooooold.

[JxXxR]

i stopped reading for a few after that i was rolling sides in stitches and everything

[JxXxR]

and heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere we........................go.

Superman Renounces His U.S. Citizenship

http://nation.foxnews.com/comic-books/2011/04/28/superman-renounces-his-us-citizenship

some comments by FOX News readers:


Don’t buy the stupid magazine. How about coming up with a new American Patriot Superman?

Now that he is gay, does his rearend whistle when he flies?

is there no boundaries for this pablum pukin liberal agenda? next they’ll have him flyin with captain cornhole

EXCLUSIVE!!!!!! In next months issue Superman wears adult diapers and P00PS himself

He’s probably being de-Americanized to increase his appeal to the now world-wide Superman brand. We were much more isolated as a nation in the 1930s when the character was created. It’s unfortunate that this is happening, but there are 70 years of back stories to entertain us if we don’t like the character’s new identity.

THAT is NOT Superman!

He was never a natural born citizen anyway … Go back to Krypton …

He was a citizen. Just couldn’t run for president.

I bet he becomes a t aco, wears a tur bin or uses ch op sticks

I read that he is upset that he fights the evil Lex, and now Nobama sneaks in and he is worse than Lex.

Me thinks superman has his leotards in a bunch.

Superman is an illegal alien anyway………When Batman renounces his citizenship, then we have a problem.

DC you are a disgrace...why don't you take your left-wing-socialist, anti-God, anti-American PC comics and move to Europe or better yet China. Been reading DC comics on and off for about 50 years but no more go take your crap writers across the border where you belong. You do not reflect America or our way of life but the UN socialist utopia the commie left dreams about. WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER OF YOUR CRAP COMICS AGAIN.

The real "Death of Superman" has finally come. Perry White is no longer allowed to say "and the American Way", and now Superman himself is being written away from his wholesome Mid-Western American roots. Martha and Jonathan must be rolling over in their neatly drawn graves (or crying in their milk, depending on which time line we're talking about).

[Dr Doom]

lol @ the Fox readers comments.

[JxXxR]

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/04/supergods-cover-wo-bellyband.jpg


From one of the most acclaimed and oracular writers in the world of comics comes a thrilling and provocative exploration of humankind’s great modern myth: the superhero.

For Grant Morrison, possibly the greatest of contemporary superhero storytellers, these heroes are not simply characters but powerful archetypes whose ongoing, decades-spanning story arcs reflect and predict the course of human existence: Through them, we tell the story of ourselves. In this exhilarating book, Morrison draws on history, art, mythology, and his own astonishing journeys through this alternate universe to provide the first true chronicle of the superhero-why they matter, why they will always be with us, and what they tell us about who we are.

keep an eye out for SUPERGODS this July

[Dr Doom]

He's really screwing Ellis over with that title.

[Broddie]

well that was an good 'excuse/way' to bring Swamp Thing into the DCU imo....


Well he has never left the DCU in the first place lmao. I didn't get to read anything cause I had to step out last night but I will today but seriously Supes denounced "Truth, Justice and the American Way"?!? seriously?!? I almost barfed when Singer's mess of a movie completely avoided it and now the comics are doing the same?!? I won't go as borderline as the conservative fucks from the FOX News board but that shit is as synonymous with Superman as the question "Wherefore art thou?" is with Romeo & Juliet. The fuck?!?

[Broddie]

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2011/04/supergods-cover-wo-bellyband.jpg



keep an eye out for SUPERGODS this July

Read my mind. They always had a friendly rivalry but still "c'mon Grant!"

[Jack Roller]

Dash is in a crazy spot right now. I can't wait for the next issue of Scalped.

[Earth-2 Superman]

Now that he is gay, does his rearend whistle when he flies?


ok that shit was funny lmao

[Chapter]

Dash is in a crazy spot right now. I can't wait for the next issue of Scalped.

Scalped is DC?

And why did Grant call it Supergods? I know him and Ellis are cool but I don't really get why he pulled that.

[Broddie]

Scalped is DC?



All of VERTIGO is.

It's always just been DC's way of giving editors and creators a bit more breathing room than mainstream comics will allow by creating a little corner they could do all that in. This is why they're allowed to have so many outrageous self contained stories. Though there are certain VERTIGO staples that do crossover to the mainstream DCU from time to time (Daniel Hall from Sandman as well as some of the Endless, John Constantine, Black Orchid).

I got to catch up on Scalped pretty bad BTW sounds like Aaron finally found his groove from what people tell me about it.

[Chapter]

I didn't even realize Scalped was Vertigo -_-.

[1angryblack]

Is anybody reading Freedom Fighters? I was really sleeping on this book but damn it's been a good read.

[JxXxR]

Well he has never left the DCU in the first place lmao. I didn't get to read anything cause I had to step out last night but I will today but seriously Supes denounced "Truth, Justice and the American Way"?!? seriously?!? I almost barfed when Singer's mess of a movie completely avoided it and now the comics are doing the same?!? I won't go as borderline as the conservative fucks from the FOX News board but that shit is as synonymous with Superman as the question "Wherefore art thou?" is with Romeo & Juliet. The fuck?!?

well he didnt denounce "Truth Justice & the American Way"...just his American citizenship...ppl can argue that's on in the same but ehh

[False Profit]

wait... so Superman really IS an "Illegal Alien" now!?

bwahahahahaaa

[False Profit]

Scalped: looks like things are about to come to a head.... Red Crow has finally given Bad Horse the nod. Catcher's making his move. The FBI's closing in.... I wonder if Catcher is about to throw himself to the wolves?

Hell, I wonder if Bad Horse ALREADY knows what Catcher did.... after all, the spider being prevalent means that Bad Horse is actually using his brain instead of trying to break the whole rez in half in his typical fashion. We've already seen how competent a schemer Bad Horse could be. I wonder if his seeing Diesel's spirit was deep buried guilt or him trying not to think about the consequences of the last time he actually used his brain instead of his brawn?

He's never seemed like he had any sort of remorse at all. lol

[JxXxR]

wait... so Superman really IS an "Illegal Alien" now!?

bwahahahahaaa

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[False Profit]

Thank You, thank you. I'll be here all week.

[False Profit]

Is anybody reading Freedom Fighters? I was really sleeping on this book but damn it's been a good read.

I haven't read it since the first mini, which was suprisingly good. Is this series as good?

[Jack Roller]

Scalped: looks like things are about to come to a head.... Red Crow has finally given Bad Horse the nod. Catcher's making his move. The FBI's closing in.... I wonder if Catcher is about to throw himself to the wolves?

Hell, I wonder if Bad Horse ALREADY knows what Catcher did.... after all, the spider being prevalent means that Bad Horse is actually using his brain instead of trying to break the whole rez in half in his typical fashion. We've already seen how competent a schemer Bad Horse could be. I wonder if his seeing Diesel's spirit was deep buried guilt or him trying not to think about the consequences of the last time he actually used his brain instead of his brawn?

He's never seemed like he had any sort of remorse at all. lol smh @ myself for rushing through my comics and doing the same with Scalped. I didn't even think about the spider like I maybe should have. In their myths they have Iktomi, the great trickster and teacher of wisdom (yea kind of weird but reminds me of the serpent actually), appears as a spider to talk to an elder and teach him about the cycle people go through in life and that there are good and bad people that will try to take you their way.
Also, and this might be less likely to be relevant, I had a friend that really believed in the native culture (although he was white, lol) and he was at odds with a medicine man that had sexual abuse allegations against him (the girls were my friend's "nieces") and if he saw a spider walking towards him he thought it was a sign that this guy was using his magic against him.

[JxXxR]

i know alot dont watch Smallville but just thought i would post this lol cuz....

i fucking was HYPE as fuck when i saw this after the episode i was like OH SHIT!!!!! BLACK MANTA, CAPTAIN COLD!

THE LEGION OF DOOM!!

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We're told the villains around the table include Solomon Grundy, Dark Archer, Roulette, Black Manta, Captain Cold, and Metallo. Some have speculated that the red straps belong to Giganta, but we're sticking with Roulette. Obviously not all of the original actors, so they'll probably be seen from far away.

[Broddie]

well I'm kinda pissed that it ended like... like THAT.

Having finally read it I don't understand why. I personally felt it was most excellent as the mighty Bill & Ted would conclude. First of all Cornell's Superman is as fucking awesome as his Lex. Seriously he wrote the characters so fucking amazingly well it irks me that they just don't hand him ALL the Superman books from now on.

It's been a very very long time since I've seen that much fidelity to not just their TRUE conflict (an intellectual one) but the spirit of both characters in a story pitting them against each other. All-Star was probably the last before this one. This is easily one of my favorite Supes and Lex battles cause of this. Great fucking stuff right there. I also liked how he not only tied up all his loose ends throughout the whole run but still actually made some sense of that editorially mandated Doomsday crap very seamlessly too. As if it was HIS idea in the first place that's how organic it all felt. Overall The Black Ring was pifftastic to the core.

So I finally read the Goyer thing. OK it's not as dramatic as I thought it would be. It's basically a harkening back to the silver age ideal of "Superman is a citizen of the world" shit that began when the U.N. announced that every country would consider Supes a priced resident. It's not a complete abolishment of "Truth, Justice and the American Way". That could still possibly stand as at his core he is still a rural Kansas farmboy and the ideals he learned from fine Americans are what shaped him into the hero he is for the world.